The Color Between The Lines with Esther Dillard

He was shot at 16 years old. The physical wound healed in months. The trauma rewired his thinking for decades. And right as his new book on divine certainty releases — his wife suffers a serious accident he never saw coming.

That is where this conversation begins.

In this episode of The Color Between the Lines, I sit down with Pastor Touré Roberts — co-senior pastor of The Potter's House in Dallas and founder of ONE — to talk about his new book Knowing. In a season where the ground keeps shifting under our feet, Pastor Touré says the answer isn't more information. It's something older. Something every person was born with. Something most of us have forgotten how to read.

We cover:

→ What Knowing actually is — and why it's the first sense, not the sixth

→ What anchored him when Sarah Jakes Roberts was seriously injured

→ How trauma rewires your inner knower — and what misknowing actually feels like

→ The Gregg Braden DNA discovery and how it connects to divine programming

→ How his parents' work in the Black Panther Party shaped his mission today

→ Why his 9-year-old daughter wrote the foreword — and why his publisher pushed back

→ What he wishes he had known 20 years ago

📖 Get the book — Knowing by Pastor Touré Roberts:

https://amzn.to/4y5P1cw

Follow Pastor Touré Roberts on all platforms: @TouréRoberts

FOR EDUCATORS: Free discussion guides and classroom-ready educator resources at substack.com/@iamestherdillard and etsy.com/shop/ColorBtwLinesMarket

HEIRSOUND: Embed a loved one's voice inside a printed photograph using Canva and Google Drive. Free tutorial at youtube.com/@thecolorbetweenthelines. Step-by-step guide in description.

I'm Esther Dillard. Your story matters.